An Interview with Virginia Madsen
By Gregg Shapiro
It seems like no matter what kind of movies you enjoy, chances are good that Virginia Madsen has been in one of them. She covered horror early in her career with the cult favorite Candyman and has appeared in others over the years, most recently The Haunting in Connecticut. Madsen has also performed in acclaimed dramas including Ghosts of Mississippi, The Rainmaker and Joy (playing Jennifer Lawrence’s mother). She is also a natural when it comes to comedies as her Oscar-nominated turn in Sideways proved, as well as her performances in A Prairie Home Companion and the queer-themed A Change of Heart.
In director Yen Tan’s new movie 1985 (Wolfe), Madsen gives what may well be her finest performance. As Eileen, she’s a Texas mom whose oldest son Adrian (out actor Cory Michael Smith) comes home from New York for Christmas in 1985, the first time he’s been with the family in three years. He’s hiding a few secrets, including being gay and being HIV+, but Eileen is savvier than she seems. Madsen gives her all in every scene, including an airport goodbye scene that requires a box of tissues.
I had the pleasure of speaking with Madsen, a true ally, through and through, before 1985 was released for a limited theatrical run and on home video and VOD in late November.
Gregg Shapiro: Virginia, early in your acting career, you starred in the classic horror film Candyman and later in The Number 23 and The Haunting in Connecticut. What is it about this genre of movies that appeals to you as an actress?
Virginia Madsen: It’s just very fun making a horror film. It’s like it’s Halloween and you’re a little kid and you’re pretending to be afraid of a ghost that’s not really there. It’s playing dress-up. It should also be very good storytelling. The reason I haven’t done more of it is because the stories were never any good. The focus was more on the slasher aspect and less on the story. That’s why I loved Candyman. It was really like a classic Dracula. It was a legend and into past lives and very romantic. When you look at the classic horror villains, you felt for them. You loved Frankenstein and you hated when the castle collapsed because you have empathy for the monster. We all have a bit of the monster within us.
GS: Over the years you have worked with an incredible array of directors, including Alexander Payne, Robert Altman, Francis Ford Coppola, David O. Russell, Rob Reiner, David Lynch, Dennis Hopper, Joel Schumacher and Catherine Hardwicke.
VM: When you put it like that, it sounds like I’ve had a great career [laughs].
GS: What have those experiences meant to you?
VM: I feel blessed that I was able to be a student, in a way. Those directors that you listed are truly great directors. They take you by the hand and they teach you how to do it better. I learned an incredible amount about acting from Francis Ford Coppola. Because I didn’t go in to the audition nervous, they gave me the role (of Jackie in The Rainmaker). He trusted that I would be tough enough to go through it and not be destroyed. I think a lot of these directors see a strength in me; they know I can go the distance. When someone like Alexander Payne has confidence in you, you in turn lead with that confidence. I gained a lot of confidence and I learned a lot working with those directors.
GS: I think your work in Yen Tan’s new movie 1985 is breathtaking. What can you tell me about the character of Eileen that made you want to portray her?
VM: I’m a mother. It’s the most important thing I’ll ever do in my lifetime. I’m very close to my son. Also, I lived during that period of time where friends were dying and people were getting really sick. Nobody wanted to talk about it and everybody was getting scared. Those are two defining moments in my life. It was my feeling that this mother, like most mothers, knows he (her son Adrian) is gay. I think for the vast majority, certainly not all, and young people hide their true identity because they have to, most mothers know their child is different. My mom recognized that I was different because I was artistic and flamboyant, and she supported me. I think Eileen doesn’t want him to be gay. She’s a mother who would know how difficult that would make his life. She doesn’t know he’s sick (with the AIDS virus), but she knows he’s gay. I think it sets up a hopeful message for the younger brother. She’ll be supportive of that boy being gay as well.
GS: There are two particularly heart-wrenching scenes in 1985. The first is a scene between Adrian and his ex-girlfriend Carly, the other is the scene between Eileen and Adrian when she drops him off at the airport.
VM: Oh, God, that was so hard!
GS: As an actress, how did you prepare for a scene like that?
VM: That part was easy because that’s how my mother was when she put me on a plane to California to be an actress. She so desperately didn’t want her kid to leave home. That’s a classic parental moment. I remember trying so hard to hold back tears. I had my cat with me and I was such a little girl. I was only 19. But she (my mother) was all for it. She was like, “Go get ‘em!” But I remember her crying just like that. So that scene was right out of my own life. After we cut (while filming), I would run around to Cory’s side of the car and we would just hug each other and cry. I just love him! He’s not just a really gifted actor, he’s a really genuine person. I have great affection for him. When he would start to cry, I’d be like, “Now I’m going to cry [laughs]!” We didn’t milk it. It didn’t take long to shoot it because we had to get out of the airport. (Director) Yen and (co-writer) Hutch were both careful that everything was set and ready to go so we didn’t have to do very many takes of it because it was such a sensitive scene. If you pare this movie down to what it really is, this movie is about love. That’s why the very last shot is a first kiss. It’s not about death, it’s about love.
GS: Like you, Jim Belushi, with whom you co-starred in 2017’s A Change of Heart, is also a Chicago native. When you work with another actor from the Chicago area, does it feel like you automatically have a connection and a common language?
VM: Yes. 100% yes! I think we’re like magnets. I’ll be in some unusual place somewhere and I’ll meet another Chicagoan. Because we’re Midwestern and grounded and little bit square, you just immediately bond. It’s hard for Chicago people to leave Chicago. The same with New Yorkers or Canadians. It’s hard for us to feel at home because it’s harder to find community in Los Angeles. When we find each other, we hang on tight. We sense that feeling of home.